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how to do the perfect double push (pascal briand vlog 259)

how to do the perfect double push (pascal briand vlog 259)

[Music] it’s a very long time I try to do this video about the word push and now I’m singing I’m finally ready to to start the series about it I will tell you how I think about the word push to make it I’m the best efficient technique as possible [Music] in my opinion there is three way to describe the double push there is the technique I mainly used when I was top athlete was to make a double push using a lot my a lot my glutes muscle so I call it glurg double cushion there is also autoscaler we’re doing little bit different using much more quad and in the double push so it’s the second technique it’s important to to control both of this technique because then you can switch the workout of the maker on the muscle group and it’s it’s more efficient and you can save energy during the race and the third way to describe to the word push it’s more weight that you use the body weight on the Transperth on the outside part of the edge so it’s not really a little push this past one but if the movement is very similar it’s very unique very good ice to notice little difference between all of them so the one I use the most is I call it the glute double push it’s because I use a lot the glute during this part of the push to push to the inside I like to that my escape not really under my body weight but a little bit on the side and then I make a move in this direction so when I push inside in this direction it’s my glutes muscle that is working most so this is my favorite way to do it’s not efficient in a way of saving energy it costs actually a lot of energy to do it but it’s super efficient to maintain a very high speed for a long time the second way to do the double push would be to use the quest so when you are on the outside edge you mainly do an extension of the leg like this to use the quadriceps to create this push to the inside it’s super efficient when you want to have a quite a rhythm and if you need a very good timing into this movement the third one is the one way you use just a bodyweight trans-fats when you fall out the body around the outside it’s still a little push for me in a way like the pushing moment in my opinion is not only the moment where you are pushing on the ground it’s also the way you transpose your body weight so when you transfer your body weight on the good legs it’s also a way to push into the ground so for me a body weight transfer and push on the same category to create a speed when you do the movement or the double push it’s very important to notice the drawing you will do on the ground I’m very aware of what I’m drawing with my skate on the road on the track and the shape of this drawing on the ground can tell also how you do the double push so I give the enter double push it was great I think mainly from Cedric and he was pushing like strongly to the inside then strongly to the outside and then there was a little gliding moment in his technique and it took me years to get back to a close to level to him by copying this technique and after a while I am at least data if I wanted to save a lot of energy I needed to search a mama a movement in which I have no I have always a push so it’s the idea is modern having a double pull sheets have always a push in time in your technique it’s for sure when if you are not pushing if you’re only gliding on the skate wheels it is going down so if you’re pushing one time your speed is going up then if you are just dialing your speed is going down and if you have to repeat this for a long time for 42 kilometers for example Idina for sure you get more tired than if you can make your speed more regular the double push helped to have this more flat no man you have to push and drink the plating you create a nozzle push so it’s more regular and then you just have the landing of the skate where you don’t push you lose little bit of speed so it creates a more flat regular speed line and this is very important to save energy during your race if you are just pushing recover pushing recover you get tired much faster than if you are just pushing a longer time but a smaller amount of power for this time so the idea was to try to always have a moment when I push a dream in the coordination between the two legs so that’s why the little video about the double contact before and the more you can create the inside push on one leg the outside push and call the leg this movement with the other leg if you can delete the moment where you have no push it would be actually perfectly with the under 25 millimeter it’s not as necessary as it will be full on five-time 80 or five-time 84 because we were gliding much more less so the speed was going down much faster now with number 25 you can have more gliding moment that’s why we don’t see so many people using double push anymore we see a lot of body weight transfer similar to another push but not exactly the word push like in the early 2000 so let’s start to describe the moment of the double push so let’s say i’m skating in this direction I want to go in this direction I want to draw something nice on the road that give me the longest pushing time as possible so if my push is just going classic so I’ve done my skate straight and then start to push it will open a little bit and slowly my push will look like this okay with the double push you want to start by closing your skate a little bit so you want to let your skate in this direction I have already show you this in the video how to land your skate when you learn to skate like this you can create this shape on the ground basically something like this so the double push means we have one push in this area this is I’m pushing in this area here then my skating is coming back then I have my classic push in this area so I’m pushing one time here one time here okay so this is the kind of drawing I like to do on my skis [Music] [Music] let’s show it again I want to skate in this direction so I want to draw something like this on my ski so as you can see so this distance actually this distance here would be the the are wide would be my push to the inside okay but this is our wide would be my push to the inside and here that would be how wide will be my push on the outside okay let’s say the inside push and outside push here so it’s always a smaller movement here and your ability to make a double push is how much you can generate a movement to the inside here you can call it some some people would call it also on their push and as you know from the power box things and from the target theory I did in a video the more you push under your body the more efficient it’s gonna be so this is a super effective moment of the push all this area here is a super important moment of the push [Music] so I still have this inside push outside push okay so at this moment here and here that mean my body weight is over my skate so at this moment I don’t have a push but it’s a quick moment of transfer okay my body weight at this moment it would be somewhere it’s also not going straight at actually my body weight is doing a movement also side Saito so it’s super odd actually to coordinate the movement of the leg for the push and the movement of the body weight the gravity center and so there is a lot of possibilities so every millimeters would matters in this in this workout so if you change something from one millimeter it would be a different movement in my opinion so there is a lot to experiment to be able to understand all this now let’s talk about how I would do the movement for the glute double push this is let’s say my if this would be my sugar and add I would land my skate like this and I will try to bring it to the inside I am also front of you okay so I would try to bring my skate there so this is this movement is this part in the shape okay this that would be this moment and when I do this the knees here when I do this I don’t go so much up and down with the if I go little bit but I try not to go up okay if I can maintain the eye of my hip at this moment it will go a little bit up and down but I try to maintain it so it will generate more pressure inside my EEP and I will be able to use more my glutes muscle to make this movement okay in the video in if you look at video it’s very hard to see if the skater is using his glute to generate this or if it’s just if it’s just the body way who is falling this direction so if it’s the body way with falling without any activities from the bills it’s just a body weight transfer to the outside if it’s the leg with going to the inside then it’s double push made with the glutes so that’s a big difference and actually it’s not totally black and white when you do this one you also have to move your body weight to the outside at the same moment but if you do it too much it would be too much a body weight transfer if you don’t do – if you do too little then I would create some kind of too much pressure in your hip and it will cost a lot of energy so it’s a good the secret is to kind of find a good relation between how much you are taking some ground to the inside and how fast you move your body away to the outside when you fall outside after you want to get back to the inside and this is gonna be the walk from the back leg from the other leg from the leg that is in the air the movement you’re gonna do with this leg will help you to bring your body weight back so you can generate then the normal push okay so it’s gonna be a probably another video it’s going to be technical this part now I just want you to understand that to generate a glute double push you have to bring this leg to the inside and feel some tension in the glutes muscle with a little fall and control of the body weight on the outside [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] another way to do the double push is to use the quadriceps so if I have my hips like this again I have my shoulders I have my head I would have this moment in the double push and if I look from the side I would be let’s say something like this at this moment and if I use the quadriceps so I can be working little lower here if I want to double push with the quadriceps I want to extend my legs at this moment here so my ape would go up so then on my body weight would go up at this moment but because I have an anger ear it would generate some pressure into the ground also so I use the quadriceps to push down and I will finish the extension with almost my leg almost ready not totally straight but almost and when I have this my bodyweight will kind of do a movement like this it’s going up and going down it’s going up it’s going down and by playing with this you can find a very good timing in your double push and you can always have a good recovery moment it’s also powerful double push but it’s more something where you have to feel good timing you still have you don’t have you will have less of this kind of inside push air it will less look like this so you don’t have to land so much here and then go inside you have to learn a little more with the angle but push with your quadriceps into the ground and let your bodyweight go little bit not totally up otherwise just moving your body right up and down but you have to make the body way a little bit up and down again for the normal push actually going down here and then you do the classic push and then it’s pushing again here and it’s the second double push so this is how I think of my double push I have this thinking since I’m senior so like a little bit after shot came out I studied as much as I could are we skate with technique change in the years and I try to create my way to skate to make it as efficient as possible with the idea to always our pushing [Music] [Applause] I wanted it to hurt me to cross that line if I could I would push rewind my fault I’ll give you a heart you can crush up I’ll be [Music] yes [Music] yes right [Music] [Applause] [Music] it’s me across the room your glances tells me that I is there a way to cool you down [Applause] just one mistaken I am my fault I’ll give you a hard you can crush it I’ll be on my way if you want yes I [Music] yes [Music] Oh I’m waving the white flag


First of all, thank you so much for starting this conversation in our community! I know I learn so much from stuff like this.

At 11:00, when talking about body weight, you draw on paper the body weight following the skate inside and outside. But on the video it looks like when your skate goes under your body leans out, and when your skate goes out your body pushes the opposite way (the opposite of what your drawing). Also when you draw the hips next, you talk about the hip going out as the skate goes in.

Also, I find it hard to land my skate pointing inwards. My frame runs from the center of my heel, through the inside part of the ball of my foot, and ends up between my big toe and second toe. Is this good?

great video! So for the most efficient double push you should use combine all 3 techniques of glutes , quads and body weight transfer?

I was searching for and waiting for this video so long. Thanks a lot, Pascal!
Greetings from Munich, Alex

Thank you! This creates a great understanding. Nice to see confirmed what I sort of experienced but until now not clearly understood… the three different ways to drive the double push.

But if you look at this video of Joey Mantia, he seems to move the knee of his recovery leg far more behind his inner push leg. I feel that this helps me a lot to generate more pressure on the inner push, at least in the second part of it but I have a hard time to understand the mechanics behind this…

THAT was very helpful. Your channel is developing into a great source, I can send people to, when my explanations don't cut it.

Okay so take this video down and make more money! This is great. I should also mention a big thanks with your videos. Starting Long Track as a master age skater and now trying some inline racing too managing to have some success in my First half Marathon In Montreal last Friday. Coming from a Sports Science background, your technical rundown is really helpful.

To another note I know you are running a clinic after the Marathon in September. I have not decided if I can afford to be there this year but hopefully next summer I can make it to europe for some races! It's Hard training for this sport without any other skaters,coach + Living in Calgary, but also a great challenge! Thanks again

Thank you so much for this video I've been waiting for so long. It's awesome! I espacially like the extended slow motion sequences, beautifully long grabations! Watching those I feel my body doing it. 56y, skating since 6y, now since one year on 3/125 doing dblpush. I try to improve it every time I skate, not being a professional but 'skatophilic' as well. So far, I've already studied all of your technique videos. Dblpush is simply pure aesthetics! Best teaching video!! Clear recommendation for all those who want to learn and train it. Greetings from Thuringia, Germany

awesome video, Pascal. as a begginer inline skater, I am very happy to have such a good material like this so I can learn properly. you are a great inspiration to me, thank you!

Super vidéo explicatives :D. Pour info vers les 9:00 il n'y a plus les traductions françaises de disponibles. Pas encore faite?

Very interesting point of this video is to show 3 ways to Double-Push, while all the other videos only explain one way to do it.

Thank you, a really great video! Question, during the inside push how much knee bend do you 'reserve' for your outside push? You don't bend your knee again between the inside and outside push? And how much energy do you use for the inside push compared with the outside push, 60% – 40% or? Does it differ during a race?

This is fantastic! Your breakdown of the three ways to generate the push is clear and brilliant. I can’t wait to head out and try ro train with these ideas fresh in my mind. Thanks Pascal.

Thanks Pascal. Just a quick thought, moving your body up and down excessively with each push wastes energy. I appreciate some movement is necessary to get the power into the ground, but the most important factor to mimise wasteful upper body movement is to be flexed forward at 90' so the hips only move up and down. For those of us old crinklies that skate straighter it could be wasteful. Also its the Adductor muscles rather than Glutei that push the leg medially.

Good illustrations and demo! Very informative. So, I have no reason to postpone learning double-push anymore 🙂

Very nice video Pascal!! Thank you. I am 63 years old on 3×125 and would like to see and hear your ideas on how to develop and skate the most efficient way.

Pascal,,this video is what a lot of people,including myself,have been waiting for,, I can’t thank you enough and I’ll be putting it into practice first thing in the morning. Thanks again, Your skills are legendary …

Sir I am From India.
I want to learn inline skating from basics. (No classes or any coach here who can teach me)
Sir I request you to please start video series and teach from complete basics. Please sir please

j'avais raison sur la prochaine vidéo comme d'hab haha ! tu l'as envoyé à Chad pour info ? ça serait sympa d'avoir son avis après toute ces années

Pascal, what can I say?!? …. THANK YOU, it’s not enough!! We love to skate and your videos (and the time you spent on them) are pushing all of us to love skating more and more…and to practice, more and more!!! Thanks, man.

PS: just a curiosity, is your left leg the stronger while doing the double push?


Thank you Pascal, you can explain complicated things simply and understandably, this makes your videos valuable.
In my opinion there is the 4th way also to perform the underpush, I call it PLR-underpush or simply HH-underpush.
I personally sometimes skate by using this 4th technique and do drills to practise it, often in combination with other ways (gluteus, quadriceps and weight transfer).
PLR stands for Pelvic Lateral Rotation and HH for Hip Hike, it works as follows:
Right after you land the skate and the opposite skate lifts up, you perform pelvic lateral rotation – with the hip external rotator muscles (mainly with gluteus medius, less with other smaller hip rotator muscles) you lift your whole body mass (except the landed leg), in other words you turn your pelvis around the horisontal axis (which is parallel to the direction of travel). You perform the lifting of your body mass with this side of the hip which is above your landed skate, not with the side of the recovery leg. Lifting the body mass (accelerating it upwards) results in underpush as it is the case by pushing with gluteus maximus and quadriceps as well. By this rotation you will get a push, although you don´t change the ankle, knee and hip joint angles viewed from the side. What changes is the hip joing angle from the front view.
This is not to be confused with lifting up your recovery leg using mainly the hamstrings, this rotation (the body mass lifting) is performed using the other side. See the isolated PLR movement in this video:   Though she points to the wrong side with her hand in the middle of the video.
Clearly apparent is the PLR-underpush in this video between 5:21 and 6:04:
Ignore the ski poles and look at the legs and at the pelvis of the skier – note how high she lifts (rotates laterally) one side of the pelvis compared to the other side at the moment when the underpush is completed. Note also how high is the heel right after the underpush. I don´t see skaters using the PLR-underpush much (instead they rather seem to hold the pelvis ridgid and add the pressure through lifting the recovery leg), but it is definitely possible to create underpush that way. Favorable is that at the moment when the second (main) push of the double push is finished and the opposite skate ready to begin the underpush (at the moment of double contact) one hipjoint is "kind of lower" then the other one and it´s possible to get quite good range of motion through rotation of the pelvis. I sometimes use this technique by taking moderate uphills with double push.
My PLR-underpush comes from the cross-country skiing, I simply repeat it by the inline skating as well.

Hi Pascal and thank you so much for posting this video. I understand the dynamics of the double push but I cant get it to work. I can take a good outside edge but the underpush is more or less non-existent. Here's my question: When you land the skate you first press down and then comes the actual outward turn using the ankle. I cant make that distinct outward turn happen or just slightly. How much turning force do you actually apply using the ankle and and to some extent assist with body transfer?

I will try to make a live Q&A Thursday evening 7pm Paris time …to answer question about double push 🙂

Pascal mentioned a few videos which he made earlier. Here are the links for viewers to explore further:-
6:18 Double Contact
7:52 How to land your skate?
10:14 Target Theory

I used to street skate back in the 90s. I took it back up a few months back and being it that i no longer have the courage to jump on and off rails like back then. Im getting in to recreational/speed skating. Just got some K2s and i cant get enough of the things. Getting my daughter in to it too and these are the videos i will be using to train her. Great video dude

Pascal, time ago kalon give a clinic where he analized double push of different skaters, he explained that it was really important the moment when the landing skate touch the floor, that it should be done when the pushing leg was almost finishing (he talked about the time the pushing leg should be as long as posible). But i see that you land your skate near the pushing leg. What opinions do you have about this?

Hi Pascal, what a great technical video!
I have two questions:
1. u said the underpush is a combination of body weight transfer AND a push with the gluts/quads. would u say it's a matter of timing – u start with weight transfer (hips) and gradually shift to a push? or are both done on the same time and it's just a matter of how much percentages u put on each?
2. I find the curving motion of the frame in the underpush from inside to parallel (or even outside) to be very tricky. On the same matter, how do you prevent yourself from falling over? on the outside push u just land the recovery skate. on the inside push, u mentioned u need to use the recovery leg to transfer the weight back. I'm really excited that you said there will be a future video about this subject!

Thanks again for this awesome technical information!

Je me joins au concert de louanges : c'est vraiment la vidéo que j'attendais. Je croyais avoir compris la double poussée. Eh ben, pas tant que ça ! 1/3 en fait 😉. J'ai hâte d'essayer. Merci encore de partager.

Outstanding video, I'm just an amateur marathon's skater but since 2 years now I've been trying to improve this technique searching the Internet and couldn't find anything as detailed as this video, probably most coaches won't share their knowledge like you did here so props to you and thank you!

There's an old expression "a stitch in time saves nine" – putting in the little extra effort to maintain speed is much more efficient than slowing and accelerating. Obvious really. I like the figure of 8 visualisation for CoG. It seems like the definition of double push has changed over the years, as you explained, but I'm going with your definition from now on! Great vid for those who missed speed class when we were young (or didn't even skate)!

What percentage of the total push comes from the inside and the outside push at constant speed and at acceleration?

Is it possible to also make a video like this one for standard skating technique, also with drawings of the body and skates and also behind a car?

I consider him as my double push tutor via youtube. This is very very very good illustation. Thank you so much. Mr. Pascal

Thank you for the brilliant coaching. I hope to do my first Berlin this year! Very excited! Would anybody mind volunteering their name as a recruiter so that I can get the newcomer discount?

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Cher Pascal, cela a l'air si facile lorsqu'on vous regarde patiner et vos explications sont tellement bonnes qu'on se dit, il ne reste plus qu'à y aller et le faire!!! Oh que non! Je comprends très bien vos explications mais pour un débutant, qui apprend à patiner sur le tard dans sa vie…, et qui a tendance à trop ouvrir le patin au contact du sol, c'est assez effrayant de passer de la théorie à la pratique et d'offrir son "outside edge" lorsqu'on y est pas habitué. J'ai l'impression qu'il y a plusieurs mouvements préalables à assimiler avant de se lancer dans cette technique si optimale. Est-ce que c'est approprié pour un débutant de tenter de patiner ainsi et avez-vous des exercices pour apprivoiser le "double push"? Encore une fois, un énorme merci pour votre excellent travail de communicateur.

Pascal, you recommended I watch this after I asked bill Stoppard to make a double push video and let me tell you that THIS.. is by far the BEST double push video in all of YouTube. Thank you for taking the time and recommending it. I will spread this to the world for anyone wanting to learn. The pictures and behind the car clips were just PERFECT! Thank you for being a champion and a great asset to the inline skating community!

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